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[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:01:14 CET] <toscalix>    === GENIVI Tools Team Meeting ===
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:01:14 CET] <toscalix>    Agenda
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:01:14 CET] <toscalix>    * Discussion Meeting:
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:01:14 CET] <toscalix>    ** Topics
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:01:14 CET] <toscalix>    ** Next Meeting?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:01:14 CET] <toscalix>    ** Channel?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:01:15 CET] <toscalix>    * WIP update
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:01:15 CET] <toscalix>    ** Link to kanban: https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=8
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:01:27 CET] <toscalix>    any other topic?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:02:25 CET] <gunnarx>    For me, I think most topics can probably be handled under those headings. Nothing to add.
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:02:32 CET] <toscalix>    before we start,,, who is here?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:02:48 CET]      * toscalix here :-)
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:03:04 CET] <toscalix>    gunnarx:
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:03:09 CET] <toscalix>    who else?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:03:41 CET] <toscalix>    let's wait 2 min for other to join then
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:04:25 CET] <gunnarx>    Hello, hello, hello....  Is there an echo in here? :)
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:04:34 CET] <gunnarx>    I know gmacario1 may be offline, he will not be in SAT today.
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[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:05:20 CET] <gunnarx>    ok philrob and steve_l joining now...  jeremiah, you awake?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:05:37 CET] <gunnarx>    klaus is not here it seems
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:05:54 CET] <steve_l>    I will need to drop by about 10:40
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:06:14 CET] <steve_l>    we just on IRC or on something else as well?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:06:22 CET] <gunnarx>    People who use bouncers need to go /away when they're away... IMHO.
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:06:50 CET] <gunnarx>    b/c I see lots of names with a stake in tools...
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[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:09:24 CET] <gunnarx>    steve_l, we are only on IRC I think
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:10:08 CET] <steve_l>    k just saw augustin's email on that
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:10:17 CET] <toscalix>    great
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:10:25 CET] <toscalix>    sorry....had an issue
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:10:26 CET] <toscalix>    back
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:10:40 CET] <toscalix>    apologies
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:10:50 CET] <toscalix>    point one of the agenda
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:10:58 CET] <toscalix>    should we have the discussion meeting next week?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:11:09 CET] <gunnarx>    ok, not too many people registered as active so I'd propose we keep it quick and short?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:11:16 CET] <toscalix>    the answer implies we will have time to prepare them :-)
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:11:43 CET] <toscalix>    and linked to that... which topics we have on the table that requires discussion?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:11:57 CET] <gunnarx>    A audio conf next week would make sense IMHO.  Easier to discuss some of the finer points and overall goal setting
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:12:25 CET] <gunnarx>    I've been working on yet another summary of git process and tools...
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:12:26 CET] <toscalix>    any other topic we should include in that meeting?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:12:37 CET] <toscalix>    aham... that is a good one
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:12:53 CET] <gunnarx>    to try to reach conclusion on github, gerrit, etc.
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:13:38 CET] <toscalix>    steve_l: any other proposal?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:13:43 CET] <gunnarx>    just added a ticket to migrate go.genivi.org to new server.  but that should not affect anyone if done right
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:13:49 CET] <steve_l>    mirroring?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:13:58 CET] <gunnarx>    it's part of that topic
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:13:59 CET] <toscalix>    that is on the PMO plate
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:14:04 CET] <toscalix>    I am assigned to that
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:14:16 CET] <toscalix>    working on the proposal, although I am late already
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:14:54 CET] <toscalix>    goals and git process could be enough
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:15:00 CET] <toscalix>    for 1 hour
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:15:20 CET] <toscalix>    plus 5 min for any significant update
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:15:33 CET] <gunnarx>    I proposed to bzh guys to adopt the franca install project for their eclipse installations (docker image) presented at FOSDEM
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:15:50 CET] <gunnarx>    I'm considering renaming it to eclipse_installation_automation instead, because that's what it is
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:16:31 CET] <toscalix>    Should we first wait to get their answer before including it in our discussion?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:16:40 CET] <steve_l>    Expect you will do this but in proposal can it refer to the areas Gunnar listed in his email, rather than just use "mirroring" everywhere. On its own its not exact enough
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:17:10 CET] <gunnarx>    sorry I'm jumping ahead.  ok, "mirroring", don't we already have all the aspects of this known?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:17:41 CET] <toscalix>    I think we can discuss it here once the PMO has discussed
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:17:48 CET] <gunnarx>    do I have to summarize the summary I'm working on :)  or should we move this to mailing list which I think would be more efficient?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:17:53 CET] <toscalix>    if we need to in terms of implementation
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:18:02 CET] <toscalix>    if we move forward
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:18:21 CET] <toscalix>    +1 to mailing list
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:18:24 CET] <gunnarx>    I have no idea what topic is open on PMO meeting about this.   It just seems to be passed around.  Who cares about the forum I say, let's solve it
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:18:40 CET] <gunnarx>    ok mailing list itis
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:18:56 CET] <toscalix>    any other topic we should include?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:19:48 CET] <toscalix>    So, next meeting will be a discussion one.
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:19:49 CET] <philrob_>    mirroring is tracked in the pmo; because the deployment will have a cost and also because of the license compliance
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:19:57 CET] <gunnarx>    include when, now? on mailing list? on next call?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:20:22 CET] <toscalix>    include in the next discussion meeting
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:21:04 CET] <toscalix>    we have so far
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:21:07 CET] <gunnarx>    interesting meta discussion.  I would propose to include everything that is open on our issue tracker.  as a start.
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[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:21:42 CET] <toscalix>    That is not realistic, I think. The idea is to reach conclusions, not to translate the IRC to video chat
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:21:58 CET] <gunnarx>    I see.
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:22:27 CET] <toscalix>    we pick up 2 or 3 topics that requires long conversations and push them forward through video chat
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:22:52 CET] <gunnarx>    Yes, I see.
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:23:00 CET] <toscalix>    the status/follow up kind of meetings are through IRC
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:23:17 CET] <toscalix>    so.... two topics then: Tools goals and the git strategy
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:23:33 CET] <gunnarx>    lgtm
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:23:49 CET] <toscalix>    can you develop?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:24:02 CET] <gunnarx>    no parse
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:24:10 CET] <gunnarx>    develop what?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:24:20 CET] <toscalix>    lgtm.... I thought it was a new topic?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:24:24 CET] <toscalix>    :-)
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:24:31 CET] <gunnarx>    no, no new topic
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:24:47 CET] <toscalix>    then we move forward. Next decision is the channel we will use for the meeting
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:24:55 CET] <toscalix>    we have webex as default
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:25:02 CET] <toscalix>    do we want to try a different one?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:25:02 CET] <gunnarx>    plan for next audio/video conf looks alright.  you could add goal setting for sdk/dev environment although I think we have a pretty good idea already
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:25:43 CET] <gunnarx>    I'm ok with any choice
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:26:02 CET] <toscalix>    in gdp call we are making tests. If today's one works fine, we can use that one. If not, webvex
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:26:15 CET] <toscalix>    webex
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:26:40 CET] <toscalix>    no objections?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:26:47 CET]      * rZr _o/
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:26:49 CET] <steve_l_>    I tried connecting to first one jeremiah mentioned - dont have name to hand - but it was blocked as irc site. can see if i can get it unblocked if necessary...
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:27:07 CET] <gunnarx>    last webrtc test was not perfect.  for me a good audio connection is necessary
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:27:12 CET] <toscalix>    jitsi.org you mena?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:27:15 CET] <toscalix>    mean?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:27:16 CET] <gunnarx>    yes
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:27:19 CET] <rZr>    sorry I am came to meeting, I am not really involved into automotive project, and did present myself
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:27:43 CET] <rZr>    ^ i am late...
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:27:44 CET] <gunnarx>    but I'm ok with testing some things out when it's not a critical discussion
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:28:00 CET] <gunnarx>    Hi rZr
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:28:08 CET] <toscalix>    so we will propose an option and if not.... webex
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:28:10 CET] <rZr>    IRC is fine when there are many persons
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:28:12 CET] <steve_l_>    I'll try whatever you proposed for gdp before meet :)
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:28:24 CET] <toscalix>    fine, solved.
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:28:28 CET] <rZr>    video is ok if few pple else it's a mess
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:28:51 CET] <toscalix>    we have about 10 / 15 min for WIP
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:29:04 CET] <toscalix>    Agenda topic: WIP
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:29:15 CET] <toscalix>    gunnarx: do you want to start?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:29:45 CET] <toscalix>    https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=8
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:29:52 CET] <gunnarx>    ok.  going through "todo" then .
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:29:55 CET] <gunnarx>    tool-28 run EA on wine.  Have not tried. low prio.
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:30:23 CET] <gunnarx>    tool-31 test eclipse automotive, last time I checked I was waiting for more input from Klaus.  I will reassign.
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:30:43 CET] <gunnarx>    but I think it is obsolete question for me.  I'm ok with the current basis for franca automation which is eclipse-dsl
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:31:30 CET] <gunnarx>    tool-36 build more dlt configurations - I tried to outsource this to dlt maintainers via mailing list.
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:32:02 CET] <gunnarx>    No response I think, unless I missed it on the list (nothing addressed to my inbox at least)
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:32:06 CET] <gunnarx>    so waiting on that
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[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:32:39 CET] <gunnarx>    move go to new server, yeah it's brand new.  I suspect delivery date on this is around 4 weeks or so.  It's not urgent.
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:33:09 CET] <gunnarx>    "in progress": publish go.cd proposal.  It's done.  Let me close up the final action and close ticket.
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:33:18 CET] <gunnarx>    ^^ that was tool-7
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:33:38 CET] <gunnarx>    tool-9 git and mirroring and stuff is for next week's conference then
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:33:51 CET] <gunnarx>    tool-10 is done.  I will comment and close
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:34:24 CET] <toscalix>    great
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:34:41 CET] <gunnarx>    tool-15 all common api builds.  all but one is done.  would appreciate more participation from the component maintainers here
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:34:58 CET] <gunnarx>    ok, there are too many topics assigned to  me.  let's bring someone else in now :)
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:35:05 CET] <steve_l_>    tool-39 lava prototype - no progress this week
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:35:25 CET] <steve_l_>    and i'm done with my list :)
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:35:49 CET] <toscalix>    Tool-9: I am late but progressing in the proposal for PMO
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:36:17 CET] <toscalix>    tool-14: Pedro posted our conclusions about gerrit and go.cd.
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:36:27 CET] <toscalix>    So we have something to discuss next week
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:36:45 CET] <toscalix>    Tool-44: done just now
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:36:51 CET] <toscalix>    about the discussion session
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:37:25 CET] <toscalix>    Tool-42: I have a mail from Joel about this in my inbox but haven't gone through it
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:38:01 CET] <toscalix>    it is also related to the new status for our jira and the unassigned request from gunnarx
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:38:11 CET] <toscalix>    I have solve some of the issues for GDP
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:38:34 CET] <toscalix>    if the mail is about having permissions to do the same for Tools, I will do it
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:38:46 CET] <toscalix>    that is it from my side
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:39:04 CET] <toscalix>    questions about the status provided?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:39:26 CET] <toscalix>    5
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[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:39:49 CET] <toscalix>    any other point before leaving?
[Wednesday, 3 February 2016] [11:40:20 CET] <toscalix>    == GENIVI Tools Team Meeting Ends==

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